What happened to the slideshows?

I just installed PSE 3 and one of the first things I noticed was the lack of slideshow options contained in PSA 2.0. In Album you can burn an auto booting CD show with different styles for friends and family along with the images saved on the disk. Using simple Slideshow is just a plain Jane slideshow editor found in most average programs. Custom slideshow allowed for the different layouts but only allows you to create a PDF show and not burn directly to the CD. I wish Adobe had imported that feature from Album 2.0

Can you burn shows to the CD and I just haven't found it yet?

click on 'make photo creation' from splashscreen. Options are also found from within organizer...click on 'create' button.

Yes, Jodi - but

I have done the Create button bit from the Organizer and for Slideshows it does appear to lack functions that were in PSA 2. So I don't think it is that simple. Right now, I am trying to figure out what is a bug versus what is a withdrawn function similar to the experience of jcddwilliams.

I basically like PSE 3 - but this area of PDF slideshows is a big disappointment.

BarbO

Barb, I'm sorry, I would like to include more in my replies but at this point I have probably even said too much...I simply cannot respond for the reason that I am only the owner of the beta version...which may very well be completely different than what actually ended up on the shelf. I will refrain from answering anymore PE3 questions....at least until I come accross a real shelf version...not sure. Sorry.

Jodi,

Sorry, I did not mean to chase you away. Please don't read that in to my comment.

Did you use PS Album 2? That is the basis of my comparison and also for the thread originator, I think. I doubt that Adobe would have removed these functions between the beta and the final product. However, there are functions or options that those of us migrating from PSA 2 can not find in PSE 3 Organizer.

BarbO

Barb, no no, i didn't feel chased away...just in a mood these days. Sorry.

No, I never used PSA 2. The slideshow function in my version allows to burn VCD or DVD format with audio and transitions...tho, my buggy version never truly allowed me to actually 'burn' something.

The slideshow function in my version allows to burn VCD or DVD format
with audio and transitions




So, they really intended to implement DVD slideshows into PSE 3 - and then noticed they might sell some extra Premiere Elements when they just leave it out ... :-(

so, are ya sayin the final version does not have DVD burnin capabilities ?

When you click on create..then 'slideshows'...do you have choice of 'custom' ?

so, are ya sayin the final version does not have DVD burnin capabilities
?




As I understood the specs (my PSE 3 hasn't arrived yet) it won't burn Video DVDs (to view on TV). It should be able to burn plain images or pdf slideshows onto DVD media of course, just as PSA 2 did.

As far as I cam tell, from both the info and playing with the software, PSE 3 has very similar capbilities in this area to PSA. You cannot make DVDs. You can burn DVD-ROMs.

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I do wish people would differentiate between "DVD" and "DVD-ROM" and between "CD", "CD-ROM" and "VCD". Similar media may be invovled [in each group], but the resulting items are different animals. This is confused by the fact that many DVD players will accept not only DVDs, but VCDs, CDs and CD-ROMs [containing MP3s].
</rant>

Sorry for being pedantic, Colin, but ... :-)

First there are the different media types: CD-R/RW, CD-ROM and DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-ROM

Both -ROM types are the ones manufactured (and thus filled with content) in a factory-press. All others can be bought "empty" and filled with data at home with a CD-/DVD-burner.

Then we have the different content types: CD-Audio, CD-Data, VCD, SVCD on the CD media and DVD-Audio, DVD-Video, DVD-Data for the DVD media.

See here for details:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc>

Alexander.
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1533 MHz, 1 GB, XP SP2, Canon Ixus 430 (aka S410), CanoScan D1250U2F, German PSE v2.0.2 + PSA v2.0.1 (PSE v3 + PrE v1 soon to come)

Yes, of course all of that is true, but I think you probably get my point. Have you heard "I made the CD slideshow and it won't play on my DVD player, but it's OK on my PC"? DVD players don't do PDF [yet].

The slideshow options in Elements 3 are indeed different than those in Album 2. In some ways they are more capable, and in some ways they are more limited. The PDF slideshows that Elements 3 generates do not require to Image Viewer plug-in for Reader; they work within the standard PDF format. As such, they don't support video or audio. The WMV slideshows that are produced by the custom slideshow maker provide the precise synchronization of music and stills that people missed in Album 2's slideshows.

You can burn PDF slideshows to CDs using your usual disc burning program, of course, but you can't do so within Elements 3.

Michael

Michael ,

Why no captions on a PDF Simple Slideshow in PSE 3?
Is this by design or a bug?
The Photo Review (like the old Instant Slideshow) does have them.

BarbO

You can burn PDF slideshows to CDs using your usual disc burning program,
of course, but you can't do so within Elements 3




So you can't make a CD which someone can use as-is - they need to have reader installed.

I posted my complaint on the main board about not allowing video clips in the slide show. This is a big deal for me since this is the primary way I enjoy my photo collection. Had I known about the new limitation I would have stayed with Album 1.0. I guess that teaches me that I shouldn't get excited about new software and purchase it before all of the flaws come out.

- Ben

Like others, I am awaiting delivery of Elements 3 and I shall be really really disappointed if I can't burn slideshows to blank CDs that play themselves when inserted into a PC! I do hope that this has not been removed. This is (or should that be was) my primary means of delivering and sharing photographs with less technically knowledgable members of my family & friends. The beauty of the AutoPlay CD is that the recipient need only place the disc in the drawer, push the close button and watch the screen. No need for technical gobble-de-gook such as "Do I have the latest version of Reader on my system". No need to download large files via email.

Mark, I'm know what your talking about. Autoplay CD's was the sole reason I stuck with Album in the first place. Now that I've become attached to the NEW album I will continue on with it. For me to enjoy the autoplay CD feature I am forced to keep a copy of Album 2.0 on the hard drive for just this ONE purpose. Since virtually all my images are stored on CD to begin with it will be very easy to recopy those particular images back to the hard drive in order to create those CD's. It's a minor inconvenience but one that's worth taking. I just simply love the new PSE 3 and all the attachments. I guess we just have to work around some of Adobe's short sightedness.

JCDD thanks for the message. May I ask a question please? Which is open to all readers if they know the answer! I ordered the 'upgrade' version of PSE3 from Adobe's Online store here in the UK. Does the install process permit one to leave the original applications on disk (in my case this is both PSA2 & PSE2) or does it automatically overwrite these? If it is the latter, do I simply reinstall PSA2 to retain this functionality?

Your words of wisdom will be gratefulyl received!

Many thanks.

Mark

jcddwilliams

I'm curious. I have never felt much urge to make slideshows with PSA [now PSE 3], as I have much better ways to achieve that kind of result, but this discussion leads to 2 questions:

1) You said:

it will be very easy to recopy those particular images back to the hard
drive




But the autoplay slideshows on CDs don't contain full-rez pics do they? They are PDFs surely.

2) What's the big deal with autoplay? Making a CD do something automatically on insertion [assuming the PC has this enabled] is simple enough. Personally, I'd just make my "slideshows" as "Web sites", burn them on to a CD-ROM and set up index.htm to be opened automatically.

Hi Colin,

I shall leave JCDD to respond to your points, but since I just posted another message and saw your reply - I hope you don't mind me adding my two pennies worth! Sadly, for me at least, I'm not much more technically knowledgable than the family and friends with whom I share my photographs. So the ease of use of a product such as PSA is a significant factor for people like me.

When I create autoplay slideshows, I get three options part way through the process: (1) Optimise for On-Screen Viewing, (2) Optimise for Printing and (3) Use full resolution. I tend to select the first because I know they will only ever be viewed on screen.

You create slideshows as web sites? Set Up index.htm files? What is this technical magic? You're scaring me! I'm only joking, I'm afraid I do not have your level of skill to perform such wonderous acts! Do you put the background music on there too? Can you recommend any basic user guides to perform this? I would genuinely welcome any further reading information.

Mark

I get three options part way through the process: (1) Optimise for On-Screen
Viewing, (2) Optimise for Printing and (3) Use full resolution




I stand corrected.

You create slideshows as web sites? Set Up index.htm files? What is this
technical magic?




PSA does it in about 3 mouse clicks. In PSA 2, start at Creations/Web photo gallery ... It puts it into a folder and you just need to double-click on index.htm

Colin,

Yes, the images on the CD were of enough quality to print out very nice 8x10's. The autoplay CD contained several subdirectories. One contained just the images by themselves in Jpeg format. It was done very nicely I thought.

Please tell me more about how you make your "index.htm" to open up automatically. That's an interesting idea.

Please tell me more about how you make your "index.htm"




You just need to include an "autostart" file in the root folder of the CD. It's just a text file saying what to run and I believe it would work with file associations. I don't have the details at my fingertips right now. I'll try to check up and get back.

Mark,

Does the install process permit one to leave the original applications
on disk (in my case this is both PSA2 & PSE2) or does it automatically
overwrite these?




Yes, you can leave PSA 2 and PSE 2 on your machines. The install process of PSE 3 does not overwrite them. I have run PSA 2 since I installed PSE 3. Others have posted in the main part of the PSE forum that they have run PSE 2 after installing PSE 3 and note that PSE 2 should be launched first if you want to run both concurrently.

However, one consideration is that the PSA catalog is in a different format in PSE 3. Therefore, you can not select photos from a PSE 3 catalog as input to the PSA 2 slideshow creation wizard. I suspect that the workaround would be to keep a PSA 2 catalog specifically for those photos you wanted to use in slideshows and import some photos to both a PSE 3 catalog (for normal management and editing) and a PSA 2 catalog (for slideshow creation). I am just guessing on this part because I have not done this parallel catalog bit. Plus it seems that this would become rather annoying over time, so I doubt that it is a good long term solution.

Suggest that you read the following techdoc for more info about the catalogs
<http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330659.html>

BarbO

Mark,

When I installed PSE3 both my executable files for Album 2 and PSE 2 were removed for some unknown reason. This may not happen to you. All the directories were intact but just didn't have the .exe file anymore. I simply re-installed both programs and ALL the programs seem to coexist very well together.

After using PSE3 for awhile now I have decided to un-install version 2. The more I used version 3 the less I needed # 2 to hang around on the hard drive. I still have album 2 running just in case I need something. But, that too, will be removed after I get comfortable with the new one. But then, maybe not!

I installed PSE 3 on a machine with PSA 2 on it. PSA 2 is alive and well.

You guys are my heros! Thank you BarbO for the link. It looks like useful information and I have taken it on board.

Colin thank you for the tip about creations. You have opened my eyes to a whole new area of the programme that I didn't even know existed - and it completely blew my socks off!

When I got home last night and fired up PSA, I couldn't find the option to create a Web Gallery anywhere. You see, I have only ever clicked on the 'Create' button that is visible on screen. I assumed that the 'Creations' menu was simply an alternative method to access the same options. I had no idea that it included additional options! Woo Hoo! I am now the proud owner of a 3D Atmosphere Gallery! The choice of gallery was the Spanish theme because I have been working on some photographs from a recent trip to Spain. It is a fantastic alternative way to store images on a CD and allow viewers to navigate their own way around them in their own time rather me deciding it in a slideshow.

Sorry to have veered off the original subject of this thread. But I just wanted to say a great big THANK YOU for your postings. I shall await the details of how you include an "autostart" file in the root folder of the CD with great anticipation.

Many many thanks

Mark

I assumed that the 'Creations' menu was simply an alternative method to
access the same options. I had no idea that it included additional options




Yes, that is confusing. It has been cleaned up in PSE 3.