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FabioG@adobeforums.com
03-05-2003, 12:50 PM
Although I set WB to As shot, if I open
Raw Nef file, the WB is dramatically
different of the original camera
setting as showed by Nikon Capture
3.5.
Any suggestion ?
Best regards
Fabio

dhowe@adobeforums.com
03-05-2003, 03:10 PM
Fabio, can you provide some more details (camera, lighting conditions, etc.) and perhaps some screenshots?

FabioG@adobeforums.com
03-06-2003, 06:50 AM
I have not a web site :-(
I use a Nikon Coolpix 5700 in RAW mode
but for every type of light condition
at the moment of the shot there is a
sort of automatic adjustment made by
CR at the moment of the opening.
Most of all it raise color temp to 7000.
This is very evident utilizing PS file
browser, in wich all file raw are displayed as thumbs at the correct WB (WB auto mode of the camera); but it is
enough clic on every of these thunmnails
(without completely open the file) to
wiev an incorrect WB on the left thumb of
the file browser .It seem CR to apply an automatic WB !
Mistery....
Sigh....
How is it possible ?

Thomas_Knoll@adobeforums.com
03-06-2003, 08:38 AM
Because Nikon did not provide any documentation on their NEF format, and Adobe was unable to figure out how to read the white balance information some camera models, such as the Nikon 5000 and 5700. Look at the camera raw plug-in's readme file.

FabioG@adobeforums.com
03-06-2003, 12:50 PM
Yes, but why on Adobe site is declared
compatibility with Nikon 5700 camera ?
Then the compatibility is not at 100%.
Why not to say it ?
Fabio

Steve_Bingham@adobeforums.com
04-13-2003, 12:40 PM
Hey, that's the same line they used for FUJI S2. It's an excuse for a product released before its time. We are all Beta users. Only difference is, we all paid $100.

Richard_Barazzuol@adobeforums.com
08-28-2003, 07:21 PM
I am having the same problem using the
Nikon 5700 with RAW NEF images:
Clicking on the thumbnail in the Browser
initiates a very warm orange color cast.
Converting not only retains the color cast
but also seems to introduce a very messy
jagged noise in the shadow areas.
These problems don't exist with the
Nikon View software and their PS plugin.

I will send samples soon (can't today
because I don't want to adulterate my
work version of PhotoShop with this ugly
RAW conversion tool).
Adobe is doing itself a disservice
by claiming that this works with the
Nikon 5700 and the Fuji S2. They should
either get together with Nikon and Fuji
to make this work properly or else
start refunding money.

Dale_Mead@adobeforums.com
09-17-2003, 02:28 PM
I suspect Nikon won't give out info on its NEF files because doesn't want third-party software to work. It wants digital camera owners to fork over $150 to buy Nikon Capture -- this after we spent $1000+ for the camera! (I bought the D100.) I'm frustrated because the free Nikon View 6 software will batch convert NEF to JPEG, but I have to buy Nikon Capture to convert to TIFF.

I'm in this forum because I'm hoping to find out how to open NEF files automatically using PS so I can batch open them and convert them to TIFFs; for me, a configuration window interrupts the opening, which means they must be opened manually even though I don't reset anything. I'm using PS 5.5 and Mac OS 9.0.4. If anyone can shed some light this, I would appreciate it; however, it sounds like my problem is trivial compared to everyone else's.

I've half decided to go back to TIFF format. I only get half as many images on my 1GB chip, but at least they work!

Dale

James_Long@adobeforums.com
09-25-2003, 10:41 AM
Same problem with Canon RAW files. I get a reddish shift in images. If I open the same image with Canon's File Viewer Utility, they are perfect. I even sent my camera in for recalibration because I didn't see the problem in JPEGs. My EOS-1Ds allows for shooting RAW+JPEG in the same shot. These RAW files show the red shift using the Adobe Raw File Converter, whereas the jpegs are fine. Both are fine using the Canon File Viewer. It's not just a Nikon issue.

Rocco2003@adobeforums.com
09-29-2003, 08:49 AM
I'm having the same problem with my Canon PowerShot G2!
If I convert the images with Canon's Raw conversion to Tif they looks good but it's not always the same with PS and Raw plug-in.

I have to customize the WB personaly but what to do with tint and the others settings?

Right now I'm trying to profile via ICC my Camera but I suspect that this is not the solution.

Is someone having a different solution than manual WB calibration?

Best Regards,
Riccardo

bill01453
10-18-2003, 09:00 PM
I have had no problem up to know with my color management and printing workflow. I have recently realized how important the use of a grey card to set the white balance is for accurate results. This is where my issue starts. This was not an issue before I started using custom white balance settings.

I have a calibrated monitor by the PhotoCal Spyder and a profiled printer as well. When I use Nikon Editor, viewer or capture to view my NEF file the image looks fantastic. Exactly what I expect. If I open that same image in Photoshop, the image looks drastically over saturated and even color shifted heavily towards the yellows and oranges. Nothing in my workflow has changed accept the custom white balance. The temperature it reports is way off as well. I use adobe 1998 RGB as my working space in photoshop and it recognizes the color space of my images (Nikon Adobe RGB mode II) as a match. The only other thing I noticed is that the Nikon software uses a default profile of NkVMon-win.icm profile. When I change this to the PhotoCal profile generated from the monitor calibrater, it looks the same as in photoshop. Completely wrong.

So, my question is what am I missing here. Why does it appear that with the custom white balance setting the image gets displayed completely wrong in photoshop with a calibrated monitor, but with the nikon software and the nikon profile it looks like what I expected. I want to ensure the most accurate results from my camera and the simplest workflow with the least amount of editing. Help!! :)

ID._Awe@adobeforums.com
10-20-2003, 09:33 AM
I've been using or been given many Nikon 9x, 5x photos to work on. The first thing I do is find an area or point I know to be white and open up the Levels dialog and reset the white point. This has worked 95% of the time, the rest of the time it is obvious the point I chose was not actually white. A problem with working blind. For my own studio work, I always take a photo with a white sheet first, set and save levels correction with this and apply it to all the photos in that particular shoot.

Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com
10-20-2003, 08:59 PM
Bill - well, it sounds like you're assigning the wrong profile, OR your display profile may be messed up (check for PhotoCal updates).

Remember that the appearance in Photoshop is a combination of the document profile and your display profile -- but most other applications don't correct for the display profile.

phil_vouers@adobeforums.com
10-22-2003, 05:26 PM
I'm using a d100 and nef images with adobe's camera raw plugin and once it was set it is a dream.. I just created a droplet for converting images acording to adobes web site instructions on camera raw and it works great,
phil

Gaylord_Shriner@adobeforums.com
11-27-2003, 11:59 PM
I have an Epson 2200 and usinf Photoshop Elements. My prints do not conme out nearlu as vibrant as I see on the computer.

My old HP that was 5 years old did an outstanding job. I wish I had it back.

Need help for my 2200.

G Shriner

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