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Upside down DNG conversions(?)
Old 02-06-2006, 10:36 AM #1
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In following another forum, I have read reports of DNG images converted from some Fuji raw files being upside down when they are first opened in Photoshop or Camera Raw. One report, and I'm thinking the guy is mistaken. Two reports, and I'm starting to wonder. Third report, came from an individual I was speaking to on the telephone last night. He has a Fuji S9000, Photoshop CS, converting with the DNG Converter, 3.3. The other reports were from people who owned a different Fuji model, and I don't know if they were using Photoshop CS or CS2. I have Photoshop CS2 and a Fuji S9000, and I don't see this phenomenon. Has anyone else seen this?
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:18 PM #2
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Jim,

I bet it has something to do with image rotation being applied automatically by the camera.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:59 PM #3
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Ramon,

That would be a logical explanation except for one little item. The fellow I spoke with on the phone last night has the same camera model that I do. He has Photoshop CS, I have Photoshop CS2, we both used the DNG Converter 3.3. The camera has no rotation option. His DNG files are upside down, mine are not.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:32 AM #4
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Maybe he hangs from a beam like a bat when taking his pictures?
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:20 AM #5
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Without a doubt!
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:35 AM #6
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Try converting to a different folder than the folder than contains the original raws.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:35 PM #7
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I will make that suggestion to my friend, but I suspect that won't solve the problem (if there is one). I just converted some raw images from my Fuji S9000 in the same folder as the original RAF files, and none of them were upside down. Everything converted the way I expected it to.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:53 PM #8
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There was also a bug in Camera Raw versions before 3.0 in how they interpreted some orientations used by the Fuji cameras. If you use a post 3.0 DNG Converter and pre 3.0 version of Camear Raw, sometimes the orientation is wrong.
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Old 02-08-2006, 05:21 PM #9
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Well, I'm using version 3.3 of both Camera Raw and the DNG converter, and the pictures were just taken today. However, I have discovered something that seems odd to me, but possibly that's because I really don't know what I'm doing. And this is no big deal because I don't usually have the DNG files in the same folder with the RAF files. But I did it this time because of another experiment I'm conducting to try to understand RAW/DNG editing. If I open one of the RAF files and continue on into Photoshop, the DNG file with the same name gets rotated 90 degrees. The first time it happened, I thought maybe I had forgotten something. But the same thing happened on about six different images.
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:58 PM #10
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The DNG file is seeing the sidecar XMP file from the RAF file in the same folder.

There is a preference to disable sidecar XMP reading support for DNG files in the Camera Raw preferences. This is fix this issue if you are storing RAF files in the same folder as DNG files if you are using Camera Raw 3.x.
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