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Pecularity of WhiteLevel
Old 06-04-2007, 03:31 PM #1
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Default Pecularity of WhiteLevel

While analyzing the raw images of several cameras in DNG format, I found something strange: the WhiteLevel value is very different in images created by a Canon 30D. The values vary from 3300 to 4095; I don't see any correlation with ISO, nor with shutter speeds, and it does not seem to depend on the actual pixel values (as it should not).

Unfortunately I can't verify the value against the original raw file, because I can't interpret the MakerNote.

What can be the reason for this phenomenon? Is it possible, that the DNG conversion is incorrect?
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Re: Pecularity of WhiteLevel
Old 06-05-2007, 07:52 AM #2
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Figuring out what the white level is Canon files is somewhat of a mystery. I do the best I can based on the model, iso, and actual image. However, without documentation from Canon, it is always somewhat of a guess.
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Re: Pecularity of WhiteLevel
Old 06-05-2007, 02:15 PM #3
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This issue is really a PITA. In place of Adobe I would sue the camera manufacturers for keeping such details secret, because what they are doing is closing down the market and forcing the usage of their own software (like MS with IE). The fact that competing raw processors still can survive quite well is the proof, that said manufacturers are suckers in software, it's not an excuse for them.

Anyway, two questions:

1. Are the black level values too "judged" for Canon cameras, or do they come from the raw file, i.e. from MakerNote?

2. Re WhiteLevel: I am sure Mr. Knoll does not need this, I am posting it for others, who may read this thread and don't know the "fine print":

This tag specifies the fully saturated encoding level for the raw sample values. Saturation is caused either by the sensor itself becoming highly non-linear in response, or by the camera's analog to digital converter clipping

The value may depend on the ISO (higher ISO meaning higher WhiteLevel), it may depend on the exposure time, and of course it does depend primarilly on the sensor and the A/D conversion.

However, WhiteLevel in the above interpretation must not depend on the actual image.

I have the feeling, that WhiteLevel has been twisted into the raw equivalent of the original TIFF WhitePoint specification, unnecessarily, because that is not the characteristic of the raw data but of the image post processing.

Am I right with this assumption, or are there cameras, which deliver reliable WhiteLevel in the sense of its definition?
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