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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-10-2008, 08:12 PM #1
GuanoLad@adobeforums.com
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I would like a graph editor that actually does something useful.

The current one does not have separate X, Y, and Z axes available.

You cannot adjust curves with any degree of useful control.

You only have very limited options for easy ease or linear/bezier, though bezier handles don't seem to be available most of the time for some unfathomable and frustrating reason.

It is a big useless lump of nothing, and needs to be completely redesigned to offer usable features and options.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-11-2008, 06:45 AM #2
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I completely agree that the graph editor needs work. The current "workaround" of using an animation preset (transform) to seperate channels into expression sliders is LAME. Position values need to be seperated into 3 distinct values that can be adjusted independant of each other. I'd also like numerical boxes, where you can type in the angle and length of the bezier curve for both incoming/outgoing. An option to force keys onto actual frames (rather than inbetween frames). A numerical box that specifies what frame that key is on.

An entire seperate window for the graph editor would be MUCH improved over the dopesheet/graph editor switch icon. I want to be able to see both the dopesheet and the graph editor at the same time! There's way too much clicking back and forth. Anyone know of a shortcut?

Guano, I think you need to set the keys to ease in order to get bezier handles. Or try clicking/dragging a keyframe with the g key.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-11-2008, 03:23 PM #3
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An option to force keys onto actual frames (rather than inbetween frames).

You can actually already do this. Open the "Choose Graph and Type Options" menu at the bottom of the graph (its icon looks like a little dialogue box) and deselect "Allow Keyframes Between Frames".

That said, the more I use the graph editor, the more frustrated I become with its limitations. It makes expressions work a real pain. I used to be able to use the individual property graphs to create a sort of dashboard to map expressions variables over time, now that's impossible to do in a readable way. Also, why is the motion graph switch considered a comp switch? This means its status gets included in the undo queue. This in turn means there is no way to make changes in keyframes view, switch to graph view, then undo and see the changes reflected in the graph. Instead, AE switches back to keyframes view, and if you then manually switch back to graph view, you lose the redo queue! This is immensely frustrating when working with marker-driven expressions, since markers can't be seen or manipulated in graph view, and only renders the graph even less useful as far as I'm concerned.

Also, and this is a bug, so it's slightly off-topic, but when editing expressions in graph view, undos change the underlying expression correctly, but do not change the code in the expression editing box, meaning any further revisions to the expression will end up editing the wrong expression code. Just one more reason to avoid the graph editor.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-16-2008, 11:43 AM #4
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but when using the separate position coordinates preset on a null as camera control, it would be nice to see those keyframes as a motion path so you can adjust the camera's motion better.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-23-2008, 07:07 PM #5
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sort out 3gb ram limit.
multi-processing for more than 6 processors.

aforementioned 3d camera interface issues that haven't been sorted in at least 8 years. WTF?

Intelligent caching of rendered layers.

Select all render and output settings, file destination in render queue.

Be able to turn off that thing where you double click on a layer and it opens the footage window. Anyone using that footage window much?

Ability to precomp 3d layers together and continuously rasterize. And everything work. Adjustment layers,etc not to split up 3d comps in depth order. Specific layer to do this instead.

Just don't bother with the node view thing unless it's useful. Imitation Flame thing from years ago. We all asked for it. And got something different. No one uses it. Do they?

Import 3d models. Actual use of opengl for realtime fx.

Decent colour grading tool. Not color finesse bundle. Or buying something. Even levels and HSB together would save a little time.
Really not hard. Channel mixer anyone?

Import XML file. Instead of buying auto duck. How about adobe buy auto duck instead?

Silky smooth playback to broadcast monitor.

Instead of node-based view of project. How about node based view of expressions a la quartz composer /c4d xpresso.

Import midi files as keyframe data.

Exponential scale as keyframe setting.

Mask feathering with separate bezier for feathering. YES.

Not crashing quite so much on my 8core.

XYZ position editing as separate channels.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-23-2008, 07:14 PM #6
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Just don't bother with the node view thing unless it's useful. Imitation
Flame thing from years ago. We all asked for it. And got something different.
No one uses it. Do they?




Once you learn how to use something like nodes you'll always want them. Combine something like Shake's nodes with AE's timeline and you've got a killer way to composite and do MO graphics in the same app. Gone forever will be my AE compositing projects with 50 to 100 layers.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-23-2008, 09:47 PM #7
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(Replying to Marcus)
Sorting out 3GB limit means rewrite for 64bit. Not that I'm against that....

Does anyone use the node/schematic view in AE? I opened it up once to show my boss the end game from our show, but it's so horrible to open/organize that it's just a waste of time..

"Instead of node-based view of project. How about node based view of expressions a la quartz composer /c4d xpresso." Later this year, you should check out Softimage XSI 7. "Moondust" is awesome!

And the main reason I was replying... Accessing XML files is already possible, via scripting.. Funny you should mention that, I'm just working on how to write XML files (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c05dc8f/1).

There's a chapter on XML in the Javascript Tools Guide CS3 (Open ExtendScript Toolkit 2, then go to Help > SDK > JavaScript Tools Guide CS3. There's also a pdf version somewhere on the adobe site, but I couldn't find it with a quick look.) There's a lot more on reading xml files than creating them...
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-23-2008, 10:14 PM #8
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"Does anyone use the node/schematic view in AE? I opened it up once to show my boss the end game from our show, but it's so horrible to open/organize that it's just a waste of time.."

This has been exactly my experience. For any comp network complex enough to make a network graph useful, the graph itself is so unwieldy as to be completely unusable.

On an unrelated note, is HTML still hosed on this forum? I tried putting the above quote in italics, and the forum displayed the tags rather than the formatted text.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-23-2008, 11:05 PM #9
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Yep, no change to the HTML limitations yet, sorry.
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Re: ----- AFTER EFFECTS WISH LIST (2008) -----
Old 01-24-2008, 12:01 AM #10
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I have to agree with the posts these days on 3D. I wrote about this prior to the current version, and was really surprised and saddened that the 3D situation still sucks in AE. What's the problem? This, in my opinion is the main reason I'd stop using AE and switch to Motion, which at least seems (in my limited experience with it) to have worked out a nice 3D interface.

At the VERY LEAST:

XYZ coordinates

Named windows

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!!!!!

Thanks!
Josh
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